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Thanks for all the fish
Right. Thank you very much for all the useful hints and tips. (Nobody actually sent me any fish.) You're all fab.

Anyway, I've sent the bloody thing in now on the basis that something is better than nothing, and while I could keep refining and revising it for the rest of my life I wouldn't actually be any closer to getting a job...

Wonder if the temp agency will come up with anything. They didn't sound very hopeful about getting me part-time work. :-(

Current Mood: oh, I dunno, fishy, whatever

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simont From: simont Date: November 4th, 2003 02:17 am (UTC) (Link)

Belated fish, with added badger

badgers and fish

(the things you find while testing auto-Google scripts...)
j4 From: j4 Date: November 4th, 2003 02:35 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Belated fish, with added badger

"So far, nine fish have been liquefied. They are difficult to remove. We
use a tea strainer."

<giggle>
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 4th, 2003 03:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Misc, etc

You could reduce and/or bullet-point the Other Interests part, someday (consistent with the rest of the CV) --- but that is a much more positive piece of work. Fantastico.

Your GP should have a copy of "Planned Parenting: Planning for your children's future" (Crown copyright 2002, no volume number of issue number per se) which is an *excellent* thing to read, and is free.

If you can put a tickmark next to many/most of the Person Essential Specs in the IWF application, then go for it (network administrator is worth digging and delving about, that is usually the biggest hassle, followed by managing the e-mail client, IMHO).

Finally, an extended quote:
"POGREBIN... The Pogrebin is a Russian demon, barely a foot tall, with a hairy body and a smooth, oversized grey head. When crouching, the Pogrebin resembles a shiny, round rock. Pogrebins are attracted to humans and enjoy tailing them, staying in their shadow and crouching quickly should the shadow's owner turn around. If a Pogrebin is allowed to tail a human for many hours, a sense of great futility will overcome its prey, who will eventually fall into a state of lethargy and despair. When the victim stops walking and sinks to their knees to weep at the pointlessness of it all, the Pogrebin will leap upon them and attempt to devour them. However, it is easy to repulse the Pogrebin with simple hexes or Stupefying Charms. Kicking has also been found effective."

Scamander, Newt (2001) Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Obscurus Books, London: 33.

Looks like you are starting to kick. Good stuff.

Yours, with best wishes

Katherine

j4 From: j4 Date: November 4th, 2003 04:04 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Misc, etc

You could reduce and/or bullet-point the Other Interests part, someday (consistent with the rest of the CV)

Good point. Will do that tonight if I get round tuit.

--- but that is a much more positive piece of work. Fantastico.

Thank you!

Your GP should have a copy of "Planned Parenting: Planning for your children's future" (Crown copyright 2002, no volume number of issue number per se) which is an *excellent* thing to read, and is free.

I'll look out for it, but I think the current number one priority for me at the moment really is to get some kind of reliable source of income. Pretty much everything I might want to do in the future, sadly, requires an injection of the old spondulicks at some stage in the proceedings. I think I'm also going to be more able to tackle some of the mental demons if I'm not spending every day being slowly boiled alive in an unsavoury bouillon of futility.

If you can put a tickmark next to many/most of the Person Essential Specs in the IWF application, then go for it (network administrator is worth digging and delving about, that is usually the biggest hassle, followed by managing the e-mail client, IMHO).

The only things on the Essential list that I can't decisively tick are:


  • Understanding of Internet technologies e.g. IP, http, html

  • Networking administration experience

  • Database experience

  • Has operated in an environment of confidentiality



I have some understanding -- a working knowledge, I'd say -- of the "Internet technologies" listed there. More on the HTML side than the others.

I've used databases, and can speak SQL, but I've never designed or set up databases from scratch.

I have no networking administration experience at all, but given that one of the "Essential" skills is "Ability to learn new IT skills quickly" I'm kind of hoping I could gloss over that bit. "Mumble no I don't actually have that but gimme a chance okay?"

The confidentiality thing pisses me off. No, I haven't "operated in an environment of confidentiality", but it's not exactly difficult, is it? Information appears, you ascertain who's allowed to know it, and if somebody's not allowed to know it, you don't tell 'em. Or am I missing something really important here?

Do you think it's worth ringing them up and saying "I don't meet these criteria but I meet everything else, and I can learn fast, and I'm really interested in the job: is it worth me applying?" I'm never sure if that's a good idea or not... (I'm also never quite convinced that the person I speak to who says "yes, go for it" and the person who pre-filters the CVs and bins the ones that don't match everything on the tick-list actually talk to each other.)

"When the victim stops walking and sinks to their knees to weep at the pointlessness of it all, the Pogrebin will leap upon them and attempt to devour them. However, it is easy to repulse the Pogrebin with simple hexes or Stupefying Charms. Kicking has also been found effective."

<grin>

Thank you for kicking my demons so persistently. I think I need to invest in some steel-toecapped boots...
From: rmc28 Date: November 4th, 2003 02:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Misc, etc

Ok, these 'essential skills' are rather woolly in phrasing, but here's my take on it:

'Understanding of Internet technologies e.g. IP, http, html' gives no indication of how much - if you have working knowledge then you can tick that one. Ditto for 'Database experience' - if you can speak SQL that's more than adequate. As you so rightly say, 'environment of confidentiality' is hardly difficult to grasp.

So you're left with one thing you don't actually have experience of, and they also highlight 'ability to learn new skills fast' which you do have and pretty much cancels that out.

A technical manager friend always says you should look at the job they want you to do rather than the buzzword bingo. If you think you can do the job, you should apply, even if you can't tick all the boxes.

It worked for me when I got my current job. Now, the job market was different then, and my department wasn't exactly swamped with candidates, but I got the job because I was convinced I could do it, and managed to convince them too (and proved myself right as time went on too).

The experience in your CV is fantastic - it shows a broad range of skills, very high intelligence, the ability to learn fast in many different areas and the ability to communicate very well. Best of luck :)
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 6th, 2003 05:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: from Katherine on Confidentiality etc

My take on that two-fold: a) have you a working knowledge of the Data Protection Act and (b) can you point to any experience of jobs done on either a hierarchical and/or strict need-to-know basis?

The DPA can of course be subject to research. Only You Know how to parlay your experience into something they can understand.

I wouldn't necessarily call up on this one because you want to sabotage your own application by telling them you don't know what they want you to know. So hush yo' mouth and let your cover letter and CV lure them into deciding to interview you, then interview with a good heart.

Yeah, yeah, money, but if you don't start getting a practical handle on family structuring how are you going to know how much money you need, and for what? Here's a clue: our kiddo is pushing past 2.5 years and we have bought at least 12 pairs of "proper shoes" at 25 squids a pop. To be fair I have lost count - 12 is the minimum, not including beach sandals and bedroom slippers. Clothes can be bought used but shoes have to be new and well-fitted. We have gone through eight hats: heads grow fast. We have two pushchairs (one heavy-duty, one for streets and bus rides, and yes, it makes a difference); had two carseats and will be heading for a third in due course; one baby backpack, one steriliser, sixteen bottles, and so on and so forth. We spend about 400 squid a month on childcare but if he went FT that would be more like 675/month. We could have fed a couple of Middle Whites to bacon size on the food which inevitably a baby/toddler ends up wasting, no matter how hard we try.

It's actually, I think, called "Parenting Plan"... but at any rate, you need to get some of these considerations at the very least in the back of your head now. That way you get some of the emotional fall-out and the Oh-my-God-is-THAT-true out of your way, when it isn't an immediate issue. What are the legal requirements for parents? When does the state call in the social workers? What do you do when you are just as down as you have been lately but you STILL have a person on hand who has imperative needs when you need to go away and howl at a wall for a while, and 'Im Indoors is out or away or whatever? Did you know that if you have a child whilst not legally married your child's father has NO legal rights over that child unless YOU make a statutory declaration before a magistrate?

You need to know. :-)

yours, with best wishes

Katherine
j4 From: j4 Date: November 6th, 2003 06:05 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: from Katherine on Confidentiality etc

a) have you a working knowledge of the Data Protection Act

Well, I know what it is, and I have a vague idea of how it works. It's also something I could read up on if I got an interview.

and (b) can you point to any experience of jobs done on either a hierarchical and/or strict need-to-know basis?

Not really, no. That's the problem. There were some confidentiality issues when I was doing the telefundraising stuff -- since we were asking about how much money people were donating, and how much they were earning, etc.! -- but it was all rather ad hoc and they didn't really tell us about the confidentiality stuff. I don't really think I could puff it up into something useful.

[...] you want to sabotage your own application by telling them you don't know what they want you to know.

Possibly true. <rueful grin>

Yeah, yeah, money, but if you don't start getting a practical handle on family structuring how are you going to know how much money you need, and for what?

Um, this really is a priorities thing: right now I don't have enough money to save for anything. I need More Money soon, for values of "More" that allow me to do things like pay the mortgage; preferably for values of "More" that also allow me to do things like chip away at the £2k of credit card debts fast enough that it doesn't all get added back on as interest. I want to get to that stage before I start worrying about saving for hypothetical future kids. Even if I knew right now that I didn't ever want kids, I'd still want to get that money sorted out & clear those debts. So I think it's a higher priority. Is that unreasonable?

What do you do when you are just as down as you have been lately but you STILL have a person on hand who has imperative needs when you need to go away and howl at a wall for a while

Hm, I've been in that situation before, though the person in question was four years older than me and was my boyfriend (after a fashion) at the time. Only I was worse than I am now by several orders of magnitude, and he was worse than me by a couple more orders of magnitude. That was ... interesting. But the thing I did notice was that I did a much better job of keeping myself functioning when somebody else needed me, than when the only person I was accountable to was myself.

I mean, I wouldn't want to rely on that effect long-term, but I do think I hold myself together better in the short-to-medium-term when I'm doing so for somebody else.

Thank you, as ever, for all the advice. :) BTW the "Parenting Plan" you mentioned -- is it this one you were thinking of? (I ♥ the webternet.)
j4 From: j4 Date: November 6th, 2003 06:14 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: from Katherine on Confidentiality etc

I wittered:
BTW the "Parenting Plan" you mentioned -- is it this one you were thinking of?

But, er, no, probably not, since that's for parents who are separating. Sorry, wasn't concentrating; it looked relevant from the index... Google is great, but it doesn't read the damn thing for you. :-}
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 7th, 2003 07:01 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Parenting Plan, etc

I haven't my copy in front of me - but it looks oddly familiar. Given your present possibilities it might make excellent reading for you. A.N. Other probably knows it all already, or maybe doesn't, but it's a good read even if you aren't in the separation phase.

Your financial plans sound reasonable for the ST. Freeze your credit card in a bowl of water and then you will have defrosting time to consider your purchase. Size of bowl determines amount of consideration time.

Being accountable to/for another person is, yes, useful, but starting with a committed relationship with another adult is - IMHO - fairer on everyone. You could be more advanced in every way than most other people, but the more one learns with other adults in the way of cooling-off times, forgiveness, distractions, keeping perspective, being patient, and not letting the niggling little stuff finally push you over the edge, the better. It's the Niggles (tiny, irresponsible demons born of Carelessness, Haste, and Inattention) which get most marriages (sensu lato). If you can't detoxify the little beasts - and they will not change, some of them, ever, and worse yet their effects can be cumulative - then you will have your child's Niggles AND Pogrebins to fight as well as your own. Kicking your kid's personal pogrebin without kicking the child too takes a lot of skill. Needs lots of practice. :-)

Whilst you are looking for other Real Work have you thought seriously about becoming a classroom assistant a few hours a week at a primary school? Six-year-olds are an antidote to most adult BS.

"Although I've known a naughty child,
'Tis honester to own up:
I've never met a naughty child
as naughty as a grown-up."

His Honour Judge Edward Parry (1895) Katawampus, Its Causes and Cure. Alfred Nutt and Sons, London.


as ever

K
j4 From: j4 Date: November 7th, 2003 09:13 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Parenting Plan, etc

Freeze your credit card in a bowl of water and then you will have defrosting time to consider your purchase.

<giggle> I like that idea. I stopped carrying my credit card around in my wallet, which definitely helped; the problem is I probably will need it now to buy Christmas presents for people (because I tend to buy stuff off TEH INTERWEB because that way I don't have to fight my way round shops full of shuffling morons and screaming kids[1]).

Being accountable to/for another person is, yes, useful, but starting with a committed relationship with another adult is - IMHO - fairer on everyone.

Well, I'm in a committed relationship with another adult... unfortunately said adult is currently living 400 miles away from me.

You could be more advanced in every way than most other people, but the more one learns with other adults in the way of cooling-off times, forgiveness, distractions, keeping perspective, being patient, and not letting the niggling little stuff finally push you over the edge, the better.

I don't think I'm particularly advanced. I think I've had a lot of relationships with a lot of fairly difficult people, and I think I'm getting better at being patient, though I still get really wound up when people Just Don't Listen, or Just Don't Try. Oh, and I do get frustrated by people who seem to have managed to get through 30+ years of adult life without ever thinking about anything. ... Actually, I'm an intolerant little bitch really, aren't I? <sigh>

$other_half doesn't cause me niggles, though. Or at least he causes me fewer niggles than anybody else I've ever met. I don't want to go all gushy on LJ, but I've never before found anybody whose mind just slots into mine so perfectly. Maybe this is still just NRE (7-ish months into the relationship), but it doesn't feel like that. It just feels ... right.

<sigh>

Kicking your kid's personal pogrebin without kicking the child too takes a lot of skill. Needs lots of practice.

I'm definitely much better at kicking other people's assorted menageries of creeping horrors than I am at kicking my own. Possibly because I have a lot more belief in other people's inherent worth than in my own... possibly also because it's a lot easier to say the right things than it is to actually change the way you think. I can deal with the 'words' side of it, but when I'm trying to deal with myself I know it's just words, so it doesn't seem to fix anything.

('Just' words. Ha.)

Words is the thing that scares me most about the idea of having kids, to be honest. The knowledge that one throwaway comment from me might turn out to be the self-esteem-destroying talisman that they carry around with them for the rest of their lives. :-(

Whilst you are looking for other Real Work have you thought seriously about becoming a classroom assistant a few hours a week at a primary school?

I'd love to do something like that, but all those sorts of jobs (at least, all the ones that I've seen advertised...) seem to require childcare qualifications or equivalent experience, and I have neither. :-/

(I do also worry about ending up with a CV that says very clearly "I have absolutely no idea what I want to do with my life" ... though I suppose I don't need to put everything on it.)

BTW, while I remember -- I've been meaning to ask this for the last few posts, but my brain has been replaced with a colander or something similarly holey -- do you want a LiveJournal of your own? I still have plenty of codes left -- email me if you want one.
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