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jinty From: jinty Date: July 2nd, 2014 06:17 am (UTC) (Link)

I think you're being too hard on yourself

My understanding of plastic-free July (though obviously you can do it in different ways) is not that it's about avoiding all use of all plastic entirely; it's about avoiding single-use plastic. Still not actually possible to do on a regular basis, but a goal that you can get noticeably nearer to. The take-away cup, the water bottle that people do buy and use once only, are the target. That does mean that a lot of food is in the sights, of course.

It's difficult too when you're comparing things that have little or no plastic but incur more energy to transport, and things that have more plastic and incur less energy. I think these are worthwhile discussions to have, to be sure; like the fact I know one person who gave up a vegan diet because it was a more energy-intensive, processed diet in their case, and they felt that moving away from a totally vegan diet was more ethically appropriate for them. But at the same time I reckon that plastic-free July is just that, a focus on one thing, which may mean compromises that you don't normally accept; but it's a way to try them out and see if they would or wouldn't work.

On bread - which bread do you get from the market? the sourdough we get lasts for a few days' worth of sandwiches no problems and is perfectly sliceable (though it may be a preference thing as I tend to think that slightly stale bread is easier to slice thinner and therefore is rather better for sandwich purposes than fresh).
j4 From: j4 Date: July 2nd, 2014 09:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: I think you're being too hard on yourself

Bread - everything we've tried has gone stale more or less immediately. Maybe our kitchen is just weirdly staleness-inducing?! The potato and rosemary bread lasted for about a day but I've never had anything make it as far as Monday. But it sounds like you're happier to eat stale bread than I am! I agree it's easier to slice if it's slightly stale but IMHO it's no fun to eat. And I'm not really keen on sourdough to be honest, it always feels a bit like trying to chew my way through a sofa or something (couldn't eat it at all at the moment because of my teeth). Maybe I've "just not met the right sourdough yet" but it seems to be fairly universal.

Obviously the answer is to make my own bread (in which case it's just as well I don't like sourdough much as making your own sourdough appears to be a full-time job requiring a Chemistry degree) but argh, not enough hours in the day...
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