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julietk From: julietk Date: January 16th, 2012 09:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Bikes! Cargo bikes! Hurrah!

In terms of easier storage/side-gate, my experience with the Christiania so far (which *looks* to be a bit wider than either of those? and obviously does not fold up) is that it goes through much narrower & tighter spaces than I would initially have expected by eye. (There was a smallish gate on the way out behind the shop that it trundled through no problems, and I've got it round those irritating anti-motorbike railings where you have to go THAT way then the OTHER way, also without issue.) So that may not be an issue; in your position I would ask myself how likely it is that I'll *actually* put the box up/down often.

(The Christiania rain-cover is removable with about 5 min work, and in theory I guess we might remove it if it's reliably sunny weather, but I suspect that this won't be as often as I think, b/c a) I am lazy & b) UK CLIMATE.)

One of the things d & I liked about the Christiania was the solidity of the box, in terms of safety, although I am not for a moment suggesting that the collapsible one isn't safe. More that (for d in particular) the perception of solidity is reassuring; might that also apply for you? Also, I know you say you don't think you're likely to damage the canvas box, but if you might ever wind up carrying things like wood, or random bits of rubbish to the tip, or any of the other miscellaneous & occasionally pointy crap I've carried on a bike trailer, there may be an accidental ripping risk.

But tbh in your position I'd probably have another couple of test rides & go with whichever one made me smile the most, because they both look like they do the job, and I am a great believer in getting a bike that makes you actively happy.

Oh, one more note about car seat attachment: Velorution said that on the Christiania box, you can fit an extra belt to the floor & then strap in any old form of car seat (they're doing this for us when we take our freecycled car seat back over there at the 1 month service). That might also apply to the Bakfiets? May not be relevant in your circs anyway.

I am *loving* the Christiania even without having put anything more than shopping + library books in it yet, so I really hope if you do go ahead & get a cargo bike you & Owen & Img are just as enamoured of yours :)
j4 From: j4 Date: January 18th, 2012 05:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
in your position I would ask myself how likely it is that I'll *actually* put the box up/down often

I forgot to mention that the fold-up-ability of the box also means that you can padlock it shut e.g. if you want to leave coats in it or something.

Definitely agree about the perception of solidity re the box, but I don't want to be lulled into a false sense of security!

And yes, it sounds from what ghoti says below as though you can fit any car seat in the Bakfiets. Probably not relevant here though as we'd only need that if we were going to have more babies (v unlikely).
ghoti From: ghoti Date: January 19th, 2012 12:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think it's just the Maxi-Cosi or the specifically designed seat for Bakfiets, but I could be wrong.

Oh, and I do take the raincover off sometimes. When I had Benedict in the front he was too tall for the raincover and I suspect Judith will still be riding in the front when she gets too tall for the raincover.

I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to ride with Benedict and Judith in front, but I know that's probably not something that's going to be an issue for you.
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