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jvvw From: jvvw Date: November 2nd, 2011 09:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think there are areas where people's personal experiences are useful and areas where it isn't. It might be handy to get other people's ideas for easy-to-prepare meals for babies for example, but it obviously makes sense to go to the NHS if your baby is ill.

Our health visitors were no help with our crying/sleep problems and I certainly knew far more about breastfeeding than one of the GPs here that I saw, so I can see why people turn to avenues other than health professionals. I suspect a lot of people are also desperate by the time they ask on internet forums and have already tried other avenues.

I find Mumsnet annoying, but less because of the standard of spelling/punctuation (though I don't recall any examples as bad as the one you give) but more because I find most of the views there rather dogmatic and uninteresting. I wouldn't be surprised if it's good for specific subtopics though.

(by the way, if you haven't seen it, this website is worth a look: http://www.parentingscience.com/)
j4 From: j4 Date: November 2nd, 2011 09:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, there are areas where other people's experiences are useful -- they're the ones where I've tried to wade through the bad spelling and shouty nonsense... :-/ Mumsnet isn't as bad as the example I gave (have ETA that it wasn't from mumsnet!) but it's bad enough that it irritates me. Maybe I'm just an intolerant old grouch.

Health visitors have been very little use for anything so far, to be honest. Not surprised they were no help for crying/sleep -- two of our HVs have told me off for not just letting Img "cry it out" (one recently, & one when she was only 3 weeks old!).

Parenting Science - looks interesting, thank you! I had a look at Evidence-Based Parenting earlier, too (some interesting links via their twitter feed but it's not as good as I was hoping). I was vaguely hoping to meet rational parents locally via Oxford Uni's Babylab (or the Brookes equivalent -- I signed up for both) but I haven't made it to any of the coffee mornings yet & they haven't called us for any experiments yet. Maybe one day...

Edited at 2011-11-02 09:51 pm (UTC)
jvvw From: jvvw Date: November 3rd, 2011 12:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oxford would be a good place to meet intelligent parents I would have thought! This blog is worth a look too: http://mommadata.blogspot.com/

Sounds like you had a similar experience of health visitors re crying/sleep to us. The jury seems to be out on whether controlled crying is harmful as far as I can tell, but it's frustrating as there are alternatives to just leaving babies to cry by themselves that work (although I doubt for a bad sleeper there are any solutions that don't involve any crying at all, even waiting will involve crying spread over a long period of time). Certainly at Imogen's age, I'd have thought they would at least suggest gradual night weaning if you want to reduce night wakings rather than just leaving her to cry.
jinty From: jinty Date: November 2nd, 2011 10:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

One of the sorts of things I find other people's experiences useful is precisely about when to know your child is ill (or when you should worry about something else). Ok, if your child has a high temp or any if the meningitis danger signals then you don't piss around on a parenting forum, but it's not always as clear / extreme a case as that. Say your baby bangs her head: very common but scary if it's the first time. Knowing that babies do commonly bang their heads when they're starting out in standing up and getting round makes it less worrying.

And sometimes the information on this sort of site can be more expert than what you find on your medical sites: I know there are women who've been advised by one or two specific posters on MN to go to hospital & get themselves checked out for potentially life-threatening ectopic pregnancies. Some of the symptoms are fairly abstruse and better known to people who've actually suffered one than to many general health practitioners.

(I'm still not going to piss around on parenting forums checking out whether to worry or not at the time, but doing a lot of general reading in quieter times means I have a sense of whether or not to worry if/when something does come up...)

jvvw From: jvvw Date: November 3rd, 2011 11:56 am (UTC) (Link)
Good point about people who have a condition sometimes being more of an expert than GPs. I think it can work the other way too though - I've seen the symptoms of silent reflux dismissed as 'normal' zillions of times on Mumsnet (but then they'd probably have been dismissed as normal by GPs too!).

I think health visitors are partly there to protect GPs from too many mothers coming in with the 'is this normal?' type queries which can be easily answered, but it's not always easy to speak to or see a health visitor as soon as you want to.
jinty From: jinty Date: November 3rd, 2011 12:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
Silent reflux came up on a thread I was looking at just the other day as a possible reason for something that a parent was seeing - the picture does vary and you can get some very good advice, but you have to be a bit on the qui vive either way I suppose.
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