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j4 From: j4 Date: June 24th, 2011 03:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
feel like I spend my whole life preparing food and cleaning up at the mo. - and forget going out at mealtimes!

Well at the moment I'm breastfeeding and bottle-feeding and expressing at every feed (ie about 6 times a day), so going out at all is difficult ('mealtimes' no more so than anything else, I suppose) because a) breastfeeding in public is difficult[*], b) I am too ashamed (and scared of getting lectured by militant lactivists about the evils of formula[**]) to bottle-feed in public, and c) if I don't do any of the feeding in public I barely have time to eat inbetween feeds let alone go out for meals.

So I guess solids at least won't be any worse. :-/

[*] not because I'm shy about people seeing my boobs or anything but because I find it so awkward anyway that I can only really reliably get it to work if I have a chair at the right height etc. which kind of limits my options.

[**] if I didn't feel so miserable about the whole thing I'd be a bit more confident about just telling people to mind their own business, but at the moment I would either punch them or burst into tears, & neither is good.

nappy changes are quickly becoming a nightmare

Because he wriggles away? Or because the poo is worse? (Or both?)

chewing is good prep for talking as strengthens the muscles in the mouth

Oh, that makes sense, hadn't thought of that. OTOH Imogen seems quite happy to chew my finger even without any teeth. Or indeed to chew more sensitive areas. >_
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 24th, 2011 05:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hadn't realised that you were doing the nightmare breastfeeding/bottle-feeding/expressing combo. I admit I tried that for a couple of days and quickly gave up as realised that I couldn't do it and stay sane, if that's any consolation. I even decided top-ups of formula were too much work so we just replaced first one feed and later two with a bottle of formula. Understand about the logistics of feeding in public - didn't have quite the same problem, but had a phase when Owen's feeding behaviour wasn't what I deemed publicly acceptable! Though I did persevere with doing it at baby groups to get me out of the house. Once they feed less frequently, it does get easier in terms of getting out and about.

Whenever I put Owen on his changing mat, he now instantly rolls onto his front. I normally end up turning him over at least ten times per nappy change, though I'm gradually getting better at finding ways to keep him on his back both physically and via distraction. Thankfully the poo is easier to deal with now but we do have 2-3 dirty nappies a day as opposed to one every 2-3 days like we did before.

Just to warn you, when you get to that stage, the baby led weaning crowd tend to make a big deal about how easy it is compared with traditional weaning, but I'm not convinced. Both have their pros and cons and some babies also take it to it more easily than others. I'm definitely glad that we are doing blw but it has been hard work planning and preparing meals, though I'm more in the swing of it now, and I've been lucky in that Owen has no problems actually eating stuff and never gagged too much. He's also pretty tidy eating things like banana now.
tla From: tla Date: June 24th, 2011 08:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
So er I am very interested in any further BLW field report you might want to give - I have made a few tentative steps that way with my six-month-old, just giving her bits of food to play with while I eat, but wonder at what point the effort should be kicking in, basically.
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 25th, 2011 10:31 am (UTC) (Link)
Just given you access to my LJ so you can read my latest post on the subject.

I've gradually worked my way up gradually with our 7-month old. We started with just lunch and fruit and veg, then I started adding toast fingers with various things on them, and have now started occasionally making more of effort with things like scrambled egg and thing I have made in advance (e.g. a couple of days this week he had some courgette and mozzarella balls from the River Cottage Baby and Toddler Recipe book). I roast a bunch of veg at the weekend as a standby and he has yoghurt or fromage frais for dessert on spoons that I hand him. We added in breakfast and tea at some point. Tea is just a couple of rice cakes at the moment. Breakfast is usually banana or other fruit followed by cereal of some description, currently shredded wheat.

I think it's a balance between working out what you can cope with but going at with enough gusto that they do actually get used to the whole idea of eating.
j4 From: j4 Date: June 26th, 2011 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)
I admit I tried that for a couple of days and quickly gave up as realised that I couldn't do it and stay sane, if that's any consolation.

Well I've been doing it for 11 weeks now but I'm not sure I'm exactly a poster-girl for "staying sane"...

The nappy changes sound like a pain. Something fun to look forward to... :-} (Imogen can already roll on to her side, so I'm guessing I don't have long before she starts making nappy changes more interesting!)

the baby led weaning crowd tend to make a big deal about how easy it is compared with traditional weaning, but I'm not convinced

Yeah, I don't really believe them, because they tend to be the same people who say that breastfeeding is easy. On the other hand traditional weaning (assuming you mean the "puree everything into a homogenous gloop, measure it out in clinical doses & attempt to spoon it into a wailing baby" method) sounds difficult too... basically I don't think there's an easy option!

Sounds like you're doing really well though, & I'm amazed at your River Cottage baby cooking -- I rarely have the energy to make that sort of effort with cooking even for people who are unlikely to just throw it all on the floor! :-}
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 27th, 2011 09:33 am (UTC) (Link)
Spending half an hour cooking at the weekend isn't anywhere as impressive as expressing for eleven weeks!

Tho kit is worth trying a little bit of both forms ofvweaning to see which you both prefer.
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