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j4 From: j4 Date: June 24th, 2011 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have tried doing things with rollers before and my hair just really doesn't seem to hold the curls for more than an hour or so -- and if I brush the curls they disappear completely. It's possible that I've just never used enough (or strong enough) mousse/gel/spray, but if so I think I'd have to have cement to get it to set in anything recognisable.

And I'm afraid I don't know what a messy pleat is either! To me a pleat is a plait (are they different?) but I don't see how you'd roll something into a plait. Also, I think the "messy" styles work better with hair that has more volume (or a bit of natural wave) - if I leave my hair "messy" it just looks, well, messy. :-} Kind of wispy and unbrushed. On the other hand unbrushed hair seems to be really trendy at the moment, I see lots of girls looking as if they really haven't brushed their hair for a week. Ugh. Sorry, I'm an old fogey, but I think it looks horrible.

Oh and if I leave it unwashed it looks slicked-down greasy. Like it does now because I never get time to have baths or showers any more. :-/

Sorry, this sounds like I'm picking holes in your styles, I didn't mean to! I think I just Don't Get hairstyling. :-/ Also at the moment I would love to just be able to have a bath and then have time to pick out some clothes that fit me properly and maybe even look like they're meant to go together... that's about the extent of my glamour ambition for the next few months, really!

Sparkly hairclips are always good though. I can do that bit. :-)
monkeyhands From: monkeyhands Date: June 24th, 2011 03:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have tried doing things with rollers before and my hair just really doesn't seem to hold the curls for more than an hour or so -- and if I brush the curls they disappear completely.

I should say the advice as I gave it was aimed at taimatsu because you said you didn't want to hear it now and then she popped up to say she'd like the advice herself. Her hair IIRC has slightly more of a wave to it, so she can get away with brushing. For you I'd suggest skipping the brushing. But the point of this style isn't to have curly hair - it's to have straightish hair with a bit of extra volume. Think Cheryl Cole.*

To me a pleat is a plait (are they different?)

Yeah. To me a pleat is a roll of hair. I found it pretty easy to do when I had long hair. A French pleat and a French plait are two different things but a lot of people use them interchangeably and I'm not going to come down all hair-grammar-nazi on them when the concepts are so fluid and muddling.

Oh and if I leave it unwashed it looks slicked-down greasy.

I just meant it's better not to have washed your hair that day. If you have to wash your hair every day to stop it looking greasy, I can't really give any advice on that except to use a milder shampoo (like a baby shampoo). But I think this is a misunderstanding and you thought I meant "this style only works on hair that hasn't been washed for days".

Sparkly hairclips are always good though. I can do that bit. :-)

Yeah, and they somehow look like you've made more of an effort than you have. We can all do with a bit of that.

*Disclaimer: hairdressing advice can only help you look like Cheryl Cole with the help of a balanced diet. Actually, even Cheryl Cole doesn't look like Cheryl Cole. Forget the bit about Cheryl Cole.
taimatsu From: taimatsu Date: June 24th, 2011 10:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Crikey, this suggests we have met, but I have no idea what person to attach to the LJ username! Er, sorry.

I have too much hair to do a French pleat. I follow the instructions and roll it up and I roll it and tuck it and tuck it and pin it and I have an extra two feet of hair I can't fit underneath the rest of it.
monkeyhands From: monkeyhands Date: June 27th, 2011 08:24 am (UTC) (Link)
I have now revealed my secret identity to taimatsu. Sadly I then had to kill her, but I went about it in an unnecessarily elaborate way and she escaped. The name's Bond, J - oh, bugger, I'll have to kill you all now. Could j4's 200-odd followers please proceed in an orderly fashion to the room with the rare breed of tiger. Thank you.
j4 From: j4 Date: June 26th, 2011 10:27 am (UTC) (Link)
I should say the advice as I gave it was aimed at taimatsu

Ah OK, I assumed it would be the same answer for anybody with long hair, sorry.

Hey, maybe when Imogen's old enough to enjoy messing around with hairstyles you can teach her and me at the same time... (except of course I'm not allowed to tell her about hairstyles or nailvarnish or anything because it'll make her hate her body and be a pregnant poledancer at 14 [subs please check], but, yeah.)

A French pleat and a French plait are two different things

Nooooo! TOO COMPLICATED! :-}

I think this is a misunderstanding and you thought I meant "this style only works on hair that hasn't been washed for days".

No, I did mean "I have to wash my hair every other day if I don't want it to look greasy, and it's starting to look greasy by the end of the non-washing-day". If I wash it every day it goes all brittle and strawlike. :-/ At the moment I am managing to wash it about once a week at best & it generally looks and feels pretty awful.

hairdressing advice can only help you look like Cheryl Cole with the help of a balanced diet.

:-) I'm not 100% sure I even know what Cheryl Cole looks like! (I'll go and look her up on the googles.)

(I know this is a tangent & you said to forget Cheryl Cole, but) I know I have seen her before but I am terrible at remembering what people look like. I'm the one who gets zero on the picture round in pub quizzes, even when it's people I really should recognise. In fact there was a pub quiz for work where the picture round was people I actually knew, IT officers from colleges etc, and I still wasn't sure about most of them. Even people I know quite well don't look quite how I expect when I see them, there's always something sort of unfamiliar about them. Weird.
monkeyhands From: monkeyhands Date: June 27th, 2011 08:19 am (UTC) (Link)
Hey, maybe when Imogen's old enough to enjoy messing around with hairstyles you can teach her and me at the same time...

That would be lovely! Assuming she ever does go through that stage; I guess not all kids do.

I have to wash my hair every other day if I don't want it to look greasy

I think you've already tried the thing where you just wash the roots and it didn't work for you, so I'm going to suggest a) switch to a milder shampoo (borrow Imogen's!) and see if it helps your hair self-regulate, quack, moo; or b) try Batiste dry shampoo, which gives you a day's grace. I discovered it a few months ago and I'm ashamed to say it's my most-used hair product. You can also use it to give clean hair extra volume, which is apparently what Cheryl Cole uses it for (yes, really).

I am terrible at remembering what people look like.

Mild prosopagnosia? I dunno.
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