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jinty From: jinty Date: June 3rd, 2011 07:09 am (UTC) (Link)
That article of Juliette's is interesting. One thing though: it doesn't have a date on it but the statement that the growth charts are based on formula-fed babies is not true any more, as the current red books have bf charts. This is something that gets repeated a lot, presumably because it was true until fairly recently, but isn't any more, or not here anyway (I think that someone on Mumnet who also had a baby at the same time as A might have had ff charts).

What's the fuss about nappies? I think that when you get to weaning and the poos change from bf type to more adult type then it matter, or if there's not enough poo or wee and you start to get worried. Was it something other than that?
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 3rd, 2011 12:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Will put a date on, sorry, was written rather hastily and mostly one-handed between nappy changes and feeds! Must be pretty recent as was told that our red book (Nov 2010) had the ff charts. It's so hard getting accurate info about this sort of stuff, which is one of the things I found frustrating about the whole process. I'll update the article too when I get a chance to clarify.
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 3rd, 2011 12:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Looked into it and they changed May 2009 so have corrected the article (and added a date!) Thanks - good to have it accurate.
jinty From: jinty Date: June 3rd, 2011 01:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
My red book (Sept 2010) says it's based on bf children on the fold-out page which is where I spotted it.

Edited at 2011-06-03 01:46 pm (UTC)
j4 From: j4 Date: June 3rd, 2011 03:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was quite confused about the charts -- thank you to you & Juliette for clearing things up here!

Even if they are bf baby charts, though, the health visitors et al don't seem to realise that if they're based on average sizes, some babies will be below the average, because that's how averages work.

What's the fuss about nappies?

Lots of people seem to go on about how much hassle/mess/ick it is to keep changing nappies. Doesn't seem a big deal to me (partly because I've been so worried about the feeding that everything else has paled into insignificance). I did worry a lot about the frequency (or otherwise) of poo, though.
k425 From: k425 Date: June 3rd, 2011 05:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
YB went with almost every feed - a clean but wet nappy was cause for celebration! A friend's baby went on a Thursday afternoon - we met at the GP's baby clinic now and again, which was held on a Thursday, and she was ready...

Lovely to hear from you, and that picture of Imogen is fab. She looks completely "WTF!".
From: hsenag Date: June 3rd, 2011 08:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Even if they are bf baby charts, though, the health visitors et al don't seem to realise that if they're based on average sizes, some babies will be below the average, because that's how averages work.

Alex (now 2 1/2) has been somewhere around the 2nd to 9th percentile all his life and has never had anyone questioning his weight (that I can remember/know of). I think the worry comes when they suddenly start dropping off the curve they were following, rather than from being below average per se.
julietk From: julietk Date: June 4th, 2011 09:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, when L was born (I did most of his daytime nappies for the first couple of weeks) I was baffled that this was supposed to be a big icky deal. Although admittedly meconium is a PITA.

Re being-interested-in-things: A was talking this week about an academic paper she's supposed to be writing this summer, and worrying that her brain has expired. But when she actually explained to me what the abstract was and so on, brain & knowledge were definitely still there. Now she just needs to work out where to find the *time* for it...

I am glad that the good parts are lovely, and sending good wishes for the hard parts.
jvvw From: jvvw Date: June 6th, 2011 08:24 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't find the nappies much a bother really either. They're getting slightly worse now we're on solids, but not much. I do find the constant cleaning up after meals a bit exhausting but I"m gradually getting it down to a fine art. The mess pales in comparison to sleep issues.

With the birth charts, there are two issues I guess - whether you are moving percentiles and which percentile you on. Owen is below the 0.4th percentile but because his graph is the same shape as all the others these days, the docs seem to have decided that he's just genetically small, and apparently has the 'genetic potential' to be because I am. But any baby below the 2nd percentile should be checked to be on the safe side according to my friend's husband who is a paed.

From: scat0324 Date: June 6th, 2011 02:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm getting a bit fed up that we're still dealing with nappies (or multiple changes of clothes during the day) for the 3.5 year old. The nearly-5 year old "got it" a lot earlier.
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