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The morning after
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vinaigrettegirl From: vinaigrettegirl Date: December 10th, 2010 11:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Now is now, I know; but I guess, having been old enough to understand things, at 11, when National Guardsmen shot protesting students dead during protests at Kent State, in Ohio, the kettling and relatively low levels of violence seem to be almost civilised.

Today's question, for me, comes from a ... Unitarian? ministry blog: of what am I a commitment? You embody a lot of commitments, in my mind: green principles without being a monotone bore, for a start :-).

It's all hard and various votes in two countries depress me and make me angry, but I shall make a few political calls before dinner. We do what we can; all is not lost.
j4 From: j4 Date: December 10th, 2010 12:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
the kettling and relatively low levels of violence seem to be almost civilised

I'm not convinced that detaining teenagers for 6 hours in sub-zero temperatures is all that civilised (though they certainly knew what they were getting into after the last couple of protests, & had presumably decided it was a sacrifice worth making -- it certainly makes better news than a bit of peaceful placard-waving), but yes, given the numbers of people involved (and given that a handful of them -- on both sides -- almost certainly were looking for a fight), it could have been a hell of a lot worse.

But I'm certainly not saying that the headlines should have been "Evil fascist pigs stamp on the face of the future" or anything like that (and Anton Vowl has a fairly reasoned argument for why the BBC reporting would inevitably seem biased). I'm just depressed that rather than giving us any kind of meaningful reporting of the political decision, let alone the protests surrounding it, the national news focused on two ageing celebrities in their big shiny car who were a bit put out by the whole thing.

of what am I a commitment?

Interesting question. I shall ponder it.

We do what we can; all is not lost.

I fear all is lost, long-term, but we only live in the medium-term at most -- which is part of the problem but it's also how we survive at all. And wishing it wasn't so doesn't seem to achieve very much.
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