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gnimmel From: gnimmel Date: May 14th, 2010 01:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
But there's a whole nother blog post in there (a book, really) about trying to get things right, about guilt and blame, about fail and win, about the unfashionability of morals and the mess we've replaced them with, which I'm probably never going to have the time or energy to write.

I would be interested in reading it, if you ever do get the time.

I watched some adverts a coulple of weekends, after a long period of not watching adverts (visiting parents) and I was struck by how much the language of advertising is about being naughty, and giving in to temptation, and the whole general you deserve to be selfish idea. On and on and on. Of course you can then absolve your sins with some cleansing yoghurt.
j4 From: j4 Date: May 14th, 2010 01:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
the whole general _you deserve to be selfish_ idea

THIS. Yes. Gah. I hate it. Being deliberately selfish very rarely makes me happy (I daren't say "never" because if you say "never" on the internet someone who thinks they invented moral relativism by the power of SCIENCE always stabs you in the face with an example you haven't thought of).

See also the all-food-is-temptation thing. Hate hate HATE. The next person who says "Ooooh, how virtuous" to me when I'm eating veg and hummous will get a stick of celery shoved somewhere painful.

(Of course you could argue that if being altruistic makes me happy then I'm actually acting selfishly by being altruistic. You COULD. But before you do, I refer you to the warning above re celery. Just sayin'.)
lnr From: lnr Date: May 14th, 2010 04:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Om nom nom houmous.
monkeyhands From: monkeyhands Date: May 16th, 2010 08:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Of course you could argue that if being altruistic makes me happy then I'm actually acting selfishly by being altruistic.

Hi! I am doing Alevel economics and philosophy, so I would just like to point out that you're aregument is flawed in this area since it is circular and ad hominem. I'm also doing Alevel computer science. Hope this comment has made you think a little more about how to debate.
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