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oldbloke From: oldbloke Date: November 9th, 2009 11:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
You /could/ use a systemic weedkiller, or a rotovator, or cover the entire garden in black plastic until the spring. I mean, I know you're getting perverse satisfaction out of the manual labour, but you need to look after your back. You don't want to end up like me!
addedentry From: addedentry Date: November 10th, 2009 08:23 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, let the girl have her fun! It's a good way to get to know every inch of the garden, too.

We reserve the right to change our minds, of course. The forces of entropy have more time than we do.
j4 From: j4 Date: November 10th, 2009 10:02 am (UTC) (Link)
Your weedkiller evangelism is getting really tiresome. (Are you getting paid commission by Monsanto or something?) It wasn't a post about weedkiller. It wasn't even really a post about gardening. Are you actually just a bot with a couple of trigger words?

I enjoy weeding, I'm getting exercise and fresh air, I don't even feel a strain on my back when I'm doing it. Maybe I'm just fitter than you.

You don't want to end up like me!

You said it.
oldbloke From: oldbloke Date: November 10th, 2009 10:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Two mentions in about two months? Get real.

I got like this because I /didn't/ use it.
j4 From: j4 Date: November 10th, 2009 10:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Two mentions in about two months? Get real.

It is the only time you comment, though. I actually hesitated to write about the garden again because I knew you'd come lumbering in like a big fat point-missing machine.

I got like this because I /didn't/ use it.

Medical science is somewhat quiet on the subject, but I really don't believe that without the regular application of weedkiller I will turn into a boring old man.
1ngi From: 1ngi Date: November 10th, 2009 11:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Rotovator on perennial weeds would be a disaster - chopping all the roots into tiny pieces, which would grow into thousands of new plants.

Sometimes 'elbow grease' is the only sure way.
j4 From: j4 Date: November 10th, 2009 11:35 am (UTC) (Link)
Rotovator on perennial weeds would be a disaster - chopping all the roots into tiny pieces, which would grow into thousands of new plants.

I am glad to have this suspicion confirmed by someone who knows about gardening! :)

Owen's dad has a rotovator which he's promised to lend us, though, & I reckon if I can get the worst of the roots out first then it'd still be worth doing.
1ngi From: 1ngi Date: November 10th, 2009 11:50 am (UTC) (Link)
I know you weren't asking for advice on your post but now the subject has come up...

Yep getting the worst out and then using the rotovator would be a good plan. And then I have one word to say to you: MULCH!

If you mulch over the bits you have done so far, it will suppress weed growth (cocoa shells off the internets is my fave - for a lazy gardener like me, it improves the soil as it biodegrades). Then in the spring, after you've rotowassnamed, no doubt some perennial weeds will show up again and then is the time to consider systemic as it works far better on actively growing plants. Or you could just pull them up again. Or you could hoe them - oh yes another word: HOE! Keep slicing the growing bit off and they will weaken eventually. Buy a really good hoe - it will do you proud.

I thing the gentle approach with a new-to-you garden is a valid one. You get to find plants you want to keep that got trapped in the undergrowth, it helps you get to know your soil - dry bits, stony bits, claggy bits, and it is more sympathetic to any wild life - particularly this time of year.

Can't wait to see it. But don't show me round it unless you can cope with Idea-buzzy-Ingrid who will stand in your garden and go ooo - you've got an xyz bush - you could grow clematis up and then have a wassname underneath it and your veg bed should go there but don't grow Jerusalem artichokes coz they taste pants and and and... :)
brightybot From: brightybot Date: November 10th, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yup, this is correct.
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