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j4 From: j4 Date: June 21st, 2009 07:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Time to digitize your VHS tapes?

Jeremy has a box that takes TV signal (as from the VCR) and writes it to memory cards.

Ah! I have been meaning to investigate those for ages. I think at some point (when Jeremy has unpacked, & probably after we move now to be honest) I may be asking for a loan of it... There are quite a lot of vids though & I suspect it'd take a long time to rip them all.

does not the TV Box count as a TV and hence need a TV licence anyway?

I don't think it counts as a TV - it has no way of receiving TV signal. Anyway, you don't need a TV licence unless you're watching live TV... (I wonder what the TVL people are going to do about iPlayer now that you can watch that live? Can they detect it?)
crazyscot From: crazyscot Date: June 22nd, 2009 08:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Time to digitize your VHS tapes?

For the purposes of TVL, the TVbox will count as much as the TV and VCR - i.e. it's capable of picking up the signals, but if it's never actually used as such there is no need for a license. (For this to hold water you must at least not have an aerial hooked up when an inspector calls, and it's probably safest to make sure that none of them are tuned to broadcast stations, the VCR clock isn't set, &c.)
j4 From: j4 Date: June 22nd, 2009 08:55 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Time to digitize your VHS tapes?

Out of curiosity, how would you use the TVbox to get live TV? There's no way to tune it or anything AFAICT...
crazyscot From: crazyscot Date: June 22nd, 2009 09:49 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Time to digitize your VHS tapes?

Dunno, it's your kit not mine ;-)

According to the website you linked to, "[it] is a standalone, plug-and-play TV box which allows you to watch the terrestrial TV programmes on the LCD monitor". This is backed up by the diagram, which has an antenna input: these don't just magically work by themselves, there has to be some sort of tuning interface somewhere along the line. Indeed, addedentry must have interacted with it somehow if he's successfully brought up the VCR via a coax cable.
imc From: imc Date: June 22nd, 2009 11:14 am (UTC) (Link)
The TV Box is largely irrelevant for the TV Licensing question because the VCR would count as a licensable device (if it were tuned in to broadcast stations and had an antenna connected). However, if it has RF-in then it must have a tuner (does the VCR – TVBox via RF lead combination work, and if so how did you get the TVBox to find the signal?).
addedentry From: addedentry Date: June 22nd, 2009 12:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, the TV box can display a menu on the monitor screen, one option on which automatically scans the channels for a signal.

To be honest, we've no objection to paying for a TV licence - we want the space of a CRT television set and the principle of being able to tell people "actually, we don't own a television" (-:
j4 From: j4 Date: June 22nd, 2009 01:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
we've no objection to paying for a TV licence

Speak for yourself! I have one strong objection to paying to a TV Licence, namely: I don't watch live TV, and I don't see why I should pay for a service I don't use.

I don't object to the idea of paying for those of the BBC's services which I *do* use: if there was a radio licence then I'd pay it, & I would regard a 'BBC tax' (covering TV, radio, and bbc.co.uk) as fair and reasonable in principle.
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