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j4 From: j4 Date: October 1st, 2004 09:01 am (UTC) (Link)
Ah, we had a computer in the house from about 1980 onwards, so the contemporaries of that ol' Apple // will have already graduated. The next officially-scared point I'm looking forward to is in three years' time, when the freshers will have been born in the year I started high school.
acronym From: acronym Date: October 1st, 2004 09:07 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm one of them, and I'm a year to eighteen months (with a following wind) of submitting a thesis.

The 1986 thing scared me a bit: I can *remember* 1986 clearly. There's now genuinely a generation gap...

- A
andrewwyld From: andrewwyld Date: October 1st, 2004 09:11 am (UTC) (Link)
I can remember 1980 dimly, and 1981 clearly in places.  My sister was born in 1980, my brother in 1981.

1982 is where memory really starts to kick in, for me.  However, by 1986 I was starting to have original ideas and program.
claerwen From: claerwen Date: October 2nd, 2004 08:44 am (UTC) (Link)
There's now genuinely a generation gap...

... in the wrong direction.
andrewwyld From: andrewwyld Date: October 1st, 2004 09:09 am (UTC) (Link)
I know someone who has a PET 2001 series (the original 1977 model), and my Dad programmed on a PDP-8, so the idea of old computers is not scary.

What is scary is thinking about a generation of adults who were born after Back To The Future was made, and when eight-bit computing was, in many senses, over.
j4 From: j4 Date: October 1st, 2004 09:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Aye, I know what you were saying, I was just getting sidetracked into tech-nostalgia. 8-)

Back to the Future is a good example, though. Scary thought.

Gives me a great idea, though -- I'm going to convert my 1992 Renault 5 into a time-machine (well, it already is in a way; it only contains tapes of music which would have been available in 1992) and go back and see my undergraduate self. Not sure what I'd tell her... "Don't be so bloody stupid", probably. Or perhaps just "Down, not across."
andrewwyld From: andrewwyld Date: October 1st, 2004 09:19 am (UTC) (Link)
I doubt I'd be able to help my undergraduate self, in the sense that people actually did tell me the things I'd tell myself, and I believed them, but didn't act on them quite enough.

Perhaps I'd tell myself to write more stuff down, or even just to read back the stuff I did write down.  I had a sort-out a few weeks back, and some of my ideas were actually dead on, if I'd only remembered them ....

For what it's worth, I think the scariest thing about being older is that there are now people aged twenty or so whom I legitimately fancy, they being unequivocal adults, but whom I could, nevertheless, have known when they were babies (and thought "ahh, how sweet").

Additional scary thought:  I don't think I was as together aged eighteen as some of the freshers here.  I don't think I'm as together now as some of the freshers here.
bopeepsheep From: bopeepsheep Date: October 1st, 2004 09:28 am (UTC) (Link)
Ah, but you would have the advantage of being able to say to your undergraduate self "Look, I'm you, and I know that we will end up in a crappy situation/shit job/less-than-optimum way if you don't do something about <foo>". I think I'd trust my future self to tell me the truth about that kind of thing, and be more inclined to do something about it. :)
andrewwyld From: andrewwyld Date: October 1st, 2004 09:32 am (UTC) (Link)
But I trusted the people who gave me the advice in the first place, and thought it was good advice.

In fact, what I lacked was not so much the knowledge about what was the best plan as the strength of will, or possibly the confidence or energy, to carry it out.

Now, if I could travel back in time and take a girlfriend for my former self, I'd be laughing.
bopeepsheep From: bopeepsheep Date: October 1st, 2004 09:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, trusting and believing someone else is one thing, but I would think specific warnings of explicit doom from my future self would give me the required KUTA to actually take heed. I can think of at least four examples where I could give my younger self a very explicit warning not to do something, or to do something else, because of the known-to-my-older-self repercussions. I imagine I'd act on those, although I might ignore ones of lesser seriousness.
burkesworks From: burkesworks Date: October 1st, 2004 09:15 am (UTC) (Link)
> What is scary is thinking about a generation of adults
> who were born after Back To The Future was made

Reminds me of that great line; "Ronald Reagan? Who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis?"

andrewwyld From: andrewwyld Date: October 1st, 2004 09:20 am (UTC) (Link)
If we'd only known ....

The funny thing is, Ronald Reagan was probably a worse actor than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
bopeepsheep From: bopeepsheep Date: October 1st, 2004 09:17 am (UTC) (Link)
I took my GCSE options in 1986 and left school in 1988. Erk!
j4 From: j4 Date: October 1st, 2004 09:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Same age as sion_a, then?

It's a funny old thing, age, isn't it... It felt like sion_a was quite a lot older than me when we started going out, but I guess it's more to do with experience than age (and while there's a correlation it's not a strict correspondance) -- he'd already been working for years, I was only just out of university. I feel as though I've got a lot older in the last few years. The last guy I went out with was practically old enough to be my dad -- he'd've been already happily married with sprogs while I was still learning to tie my shoelaces. But then, I feel that I can get on with my parents as adults and equals now, so why shouldn't I get on with people of their age likewise?

And the great thing is that my parents are still learning new things and doing new stuff and generally having a more fun and interesting life than I am. So maybe there's hope for me yet.
k425 From: k425 Date: October 2nd, 2004 08:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Ah, now, just wait till you start hearing yourself say "Good grief, I'm old enough to be their mother!".
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