From: j4	Date: February 20th, 2004 07:50 am (UTC)		(Link)
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*laugh*

	From: j4	Date: February 20th, 2004 08:39 am (UTC)		(Link)
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If you read the text form of the mail rather than the HTML

Oh! I didn't even notice that there was an HTML version. I see it now. It looks a lot more spam-like.

	From: sion_a	Date: February 20th, 2004 08:45 am (UTC)		(Link)

I've received one at some point today -- didn't see it until I went looking because the dialup it was coming from was RBL-listed and as such it disappeared into my spam folder. Mind you, NTL managed to send me a genuine service announcement (planned mail outage) which wound up there too, because they've managed to get their (admin, I assume) machine that relayed it RBL'd....

From: duncanneko	Date: February 20th, 2004 09:30 am (UTC)		(Link)
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NTL seem to be pretty shit at this - I had a few e-mails to someone in america bounced back because (after much poking trying to work out wtf the error messages were on about) NTL's mail servers had gotten blacklisted.

Go NTL..

	From: k425	Date: February 20th, 2004 09:42 am (UTC)		(Link)
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The person in America wasn't on AOL, were they? AOL's blacklisted lots of ISPs as spamhosts.

	From: imc	Date: February 23rd, 2004 12:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)

One of NTL's outgoing mail relays got itself listed at bl.spamcop.net last week. No idea on what grounds, since SpamCop has removed about 90% of the useful information that used to be present on the listing-query page (allegedly because `spammers were using the information to finesse the system') but I'm mildly confused because a relay, by definiton, shouldn't be the originator of any email.

In other news, I did get one of these eBay things on Friday, but I didn't see it because it came from a blacklisted open proxy and thus went straight into the spam folder. They didn't forget to put the link in - they just assumed you'd view the message in HTML (where the link is a JavaScript button) and their plain-text translator didn't copy the button into the text.

The server they want you to visit (210.78.22.113) is the same one named in a PayPal spam that I did see (six times in all) because I have service@paypal.com whitelisted. It's still up, despite several reports to the IP block owner, though verify.html has now disappeared. Instead, the site now appears to contain a clone of LloydsTSB (including a copy of a letter advising customers to beware of Internet fraud but beginning with, of course, a request to validate your account ).