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Apparently, sharing a bed with a woman "drains men's brains". So, chaps, if you want a good night's sleep, it's time to start making with the boykissing. But what is this so-called 'sleep expert' on about? "Historically, we have never been meant to sleep in the same bed as each other." Historically? Does he mean in the days when people routinely shared a bed with all their siblings, and livestock, assuming they could tell the difference, because there wasn't enough space or central heating to do otherwise? Or before that, when we all curled up in a cave? I mean, okay, I actually skipped most of history at school because I was too busy writing big fat goth poetry, but I'm sure I'd have remembered the bit where the Earl of Bunk-bed invented split-level sleeping-arrangements as a workaround for being kept awake by his wife (or donkey?) "Spinning" Jenny endlessly tossing and turning in his bed next to him.

In other news, though, I say, it's rather hot, isn't it? Has anybody else noticed this? I'm thinking of writing a LiveJournal article about it.
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beingjdc From: beingjdc Date: July 20th, 2006 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
"Spinning" Jenny

IJLTS "Seed Drill". And possibly horse hoe.
j4 From: j4 Date: July 20th, 2006 02:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
Strip farming?
beingjdc From: beingjdc Date: July 20th, 2006 02:50 pm (UTC) (Link)
Diving Bell.
simont From: simont Date: July 20th, 2006 03:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
I just googled for "diving belle", to see if anyone else had thought of the pun before. Someone had, but I was amused to find that the majority of the first ten hits were apparently from people who really thought that was how "diving bell" was spelled. This led to phrases like "spend two days on [or in] a diving belle" which were funnier than the deliberate pun.
reddragdiva From: reddragdiva Date: July 20th, 2006 02:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
kjaneway From: kjaneway Date: July 20th, 2006 09:53 pm (UTC) (Link)
*snigger*

Nearly as shocked as we are by the occurrence of winter, every year. :-)
geekette8 From: geekette8 Date: July 20th, 2006 02:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
From the article: A lot of life events that women have disturb sleep - bringing up children, [...]

I can feel my feminist hackles rising at that statement.

And yes, it is rather warm, isn't it?
From: bibliogirl Date: July 20th, 2006 02:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Warm, you say? Really? Can't say as I'd noticed*

* may contain sarcasm
aardvark179 From: aardvark179 Date: July 20th, 2006 02:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
"Historically we," in this case clearly means, "French aristocracy who were actually sleeping with their lovers, but could admit to it publicly." Either that or the sleep expert has some issues he really should deal with.

Reading the article I get the feeling that boykissing isn't go to help either, clearly men should accept they are inferior, admit they aren't even needed any more, and go and sleep in the spare room.
camellia_uk From: camellia_uk Date: July 20th, 2006 02:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
I tend to discount any 'scientific' evidence that comes from a sample of eight people. 'Expert' indeed, hah!
lnr From: lnr Date: July 20th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
sixteen!

It is indeed a rather stupidly small sample.
camellia_uk From: camellia_uk Date: July 20th, 2006 03:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
Eight couples, which makes sixteen people in total, but only eight men to base their claim on. :-)
pseudomonas From: pseudomonas Date: July 20th, 2006 03:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
And the BBC have done excellent work in beating PubMed to the story!
pseudomonas From: pseudomonas Date: July 20th, 2006 03:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah, it's proceedings of a meeting, so it's not necessarily crap, but it means I can't look at the article and see whether what the researchers say matches at all with what the hacks say.
cartesiandaemon From: cartesiandaemon Date: July 21st, 2006 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)
The article seemed ambiguous -- almost all third hand reporting of scientific results by people who don't understand statistics are :( But it gave me the impression that of the eight couples, all slept better apart.

This does seem meaningful. If there was no effect, each couple would presumably have a 50% chance of sleeping better on the week they spent apart, so the chance of them all doing so is 1/2^8 or better than 99% confidence. That's not quite proof, but seems provisionally convincing.

Of course, I think the study probably *didn't* show that. If you have results less conclusive than "for everyone" you need a meaningful sample. But it seems like what the article *said*.
gnimmel From: gnimmel Date: July 20th, 2006 02:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think they may have gotten women confused with zombies, there.
davefish From: davefish Date: July 20th, 2006 03:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
Its horrible when that happens, especially at the point of waking up with a really sore head, and a better half covered in blood.
bopeepsheep From: bopeepsheep Date: July 20th, 2006 05:03 pm (UTC) (Link)
/me looks at self.


Easy mistake to make.
vatine From: vatine Date: July 20th, 2006 03:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think an avid lifestyle of boykissing would help, it specifically says "men who share a bed", so in a boy-boy relationship, there would be TWO people having their sleep destroyed. No, the obvious solution is for all men to transform to women and then become avid girlkissers.
pjc50 From: pjc50 Date: July 20th, 2006 05:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
Earl of Bunk-bed

I'm now wondering about the sleeping arrangements of the Earl of Sandwich.
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cartesiandaemon From: cartesiandaemon Date: July 21st, 2006 12:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, the boykissing sounds good to me. But as far as the article said, which I went to great lengths to rip apart in the other comment, they seem to have compared "sleeping with a woman" to "sleeping alone". Joke: Now, maybe I'm too egalitarian, but I'm inclined to think sleeping with a man[1] is more like sleeping with a woman than not :)

[1] Or boy, or sheep, or whatever :)
adrian_turtle From: adrian_turtle Date: July 21st, 2006 07:10 am (UTC) (Link)
That's a problem with small studies. Nobody thinks of solutions that become obvious when a large group of people actually lives with the situation. Kiss (etc) BEFORE going to sleep. Then go to sleep in separate beds, and meet up for more kissing (etc) when both are well-rested in the morning.
annajaneclare From: annajaneclare Date: July 21st, 2006 12:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wouldn't mind demure twin beds like a couple in a 60's sitcom, actually. Even better, I'd like private suites in which we could visit one another if we so chose but even then I know I'd go poking around in his private rooms to upbraid him on the extent of his used tissue collection. (He's not a serial masturbator - just rather sinussy and hayfeverish.)

A Churchill arrangement like that would suit me nicely. We're like the opposite of the Churchhills (A famously long and happy marriage allegedly kept long and happy by both participants not sleeping together unless they fancied a spot of how's your father) - he gets up at seven in the morning and I go to bed at five in the morning.
barnacle From: barnacle Date: July 24th, 2006 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

Cameron gains snake noise, loses snake (7)

"Historically, we have never been meant to sleep in the same bed as each other." Historically? Does he mean in the days when people routinely shared a bed with all their siblings, and livestock, assuming they could tell the difference, because there wasn't enough space or central heating to do otherwise? Or before that, when we all curled up in a cave?

It can't be when we were all in a cave, because that's pre-history, and sleep experts are reknowned for the precision with which they use language. This is because their discipline is terribly important, rigorously scientific, and pursued only by the most intelligent researchers in the world.

Last year of the seven thousand people studying Philosophy & Sleep Expertness at Oxford, three thousand achieved first-class honours because they're so incredibly clever, but only the top six of those were granted funding. It's like mathematics in that way, as well as in the purity of its intellectual pursuit.

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